But Is It Art?

Posted on September 23, 2010 by fsdthreshold

It brings me great delight to announce that another guest columnist has come forward! The following essay has been written by our own Daylily. [In case anyone doesn’t know: to view the photos at a larger size, just click on them.] With deepest thanks to her, here it is:

But Is It Art?

“Life is what happens to us while we are making other plans.” — Allen Saunders in Reader’s Digest, January 1957

Art or art-like constructions may happen in the same fashion. I was planning my errands. I habitually group errands so as to save time and gas and reduce auto emissions. I would be passing by the dry cleaners, so why not recycle all those wire hangers? They seem to multiply like gerbils (but really, it’s because my husband has his shirts laundered and gets them back on hangers). So. Take the hangers out of the closet, stack them up, rubber band them per usual. Easy. Umm, no. The hangers had other ideas. It certainly looked as if it would be easy to remove them from the rod, but they were seemingly bonded together into an amazing tangled mess. I began to wonder, could I purposely build a structure, an artwork of wire hangers? I certainly had plenty of material. I wonder, I wonder . . .

My first construction was in the living room, on the carpet. My self-imposed parameters were that the hangers must not be purposely bent and that nothing must be used to fasten the hangers together. In addition, I purposed to make a freestanding structure, i.e., with no support except from the hangers themselves. I succeeded within a reasonable length of time. Then I found that said structure did not photograph well, because of the patchy sunlight in the living room and the dark couch as background. I might have succeeded with the photo later in the day, but, alas, I brushed against one of the hangers at the base of the creation, and the structure collapsed flat!

"Wire Tree One" in process

Since I would have to start over, I moved the field of operations to the foyer. I draped sheets to make a good background for photos and began construction on the hard tile floor.

"Wire Tree One" -- a three-foot high structure made entirely from wire hangers

 I got nowhere. The hangers could get no purchase on such a surface. After some experimentation, I found that an old nubbly rug, covered with the sheet, made a good surface. After that, I failed several times to build anything with height to it. My technique needs work, evidently. Building the base of the structure, however methodical one might attempt to be, remains an inexact science if one is not going to wire the hangers together to stay precisely where one wants them. Achieving height requires some hangers to be added simply for balance. Hence, the hangers sticking out in various directions. Of course, those help to make the thing more treelike, as well. The technique is something like building a house of cards and something like the game Blockhead, where one must always be aware of the center of gravity of the tower.

"Wire Tree One" with ornaments

Eventually, I succeeded in making what I call “Wire Tree One.” I was forced to compromise on the last parameter. It was either that or start over. I compromised. The tree is supported from the base and from one point at the back, where a hanger leans against the draped antique chest. I thought that the tree lacked definition, so I added some Christmas ornaments.

But is it art? It felt like making art. To me, making art is an adventure. It involves cooperating with the materials, letting the materials dictate what happens next, starting with some sort of idea, but letting it change as the work progresses. Yet, really, how much skill does it take to create something like this? I have seen no classes in creating wire hanger sculptures. Isn’t art a matter, in part, of training and skill? Perhaps this is not art, but rather, doodling with wire. Perhaps if I made many of these wire trees, I would arrive at one so good that it could be called “art.” Or perhaps the photos of the tree, particularly the one that includes the shadows of the tree, are art, while the tree itself is not.

Close-up shot of the top

Here are two pictures of my raw material. You may recall seeing paintings made from dropping paint onto the canvas. If I drop a pile of hangers on the floor, is the result art? How about if I entitle the results “Wire Pile One” and “Wire Pile Two”? Just how much purpose and design does a construction require before it can qualify as art? (Believe me, dropping a pile of hangers on the floor takes considerably less time, patience and skill than “Wire Tree One”!) Maybe if I were to drop the same pile of hangers on the floor numerous times, photographing the result each time, the series of pictures would be art? I could call it “Evolution in Wire.” If I were to start with a small pile of hangers and add a few more for each picture, the title would be even more appropriate. (If you run across this particular invention in an art museum someday, remember, you read it here first!)

"Wire Pile One"

"Wire Pile Two"

Is art, perhaps, a continuum? A beginner’s effort, like a child’s drawing, satisfies the artistic impulse, whether anyone else likes the result or not. Perhaps beginners’ efforts fall on the low end of the continuum, and Matisse and Picasso are at the high end.

"Wire Tree One with Shadow"

Here are some more questions. I am an artist, so if I make something with purpose, is it therefore art, simply because I made it? Furthermore, most people have some sort of creative impulse to make something. Is whatever they make, whether a poem, a song, a painting, a cake, a scarf knitted from a pattern, or a flower arrangement, art? Does one have to be an artist to make art? Or are we all artists, to some extent? What about the distinction between art and craft? If one knits a scarf from a pattern, with the only original feature being the choice of color, is that art or craft? Is art dependent upon originality? Or is art dependent upon whether anyone is moved by it, i.e., appreciates it or is edified or uplifted or amused or horrified by it? That is, is it art because it means something? What about beauty versus ugliness? Is art dependent upon the measure of its beauty? I would submit that there is such a thing as ugly art, though we may not want it in our living rooms.

View of "Wire Tree One" from my study

 

So, dear readers, what is your definition of art? Is “Wire Tree One” art, art-like construction, doodling with wire, or something else? Whatever it is, it is not destined for long life, except in the photos. It now resides in the place of honor usually reserved for my Christmas tree. One would think that if anyone slammed the front door, that would be the end of the wire tree, but it has proved to be remarkably sturdy. I will dismantle it soon. I plan to time the process of taking it apart, and I will count the number of hangers at that time, for those who want to know! In the meantime, when I see the tree from my chair in the study, it makes me happy. There is something cheerful about its crazy angles and its resemblance to a Christmas tree. Is it the ghost of Christmas trees past? Is it a pleasant foreshadowing of Christmas joys to come? What IS this thing?

Top view of "Wire Tree One"

38 Responses to But Is It Art?

  1. I am simply an observer says:

    As there is not an artistic bone in my body I do not know if my opinion should carry any weight. I do know this: When I first looked at these photos I was immediately reminded of the character Adam from the awesome and too-short-lived Joan of Arcadia.

    Is it art? It is if the creator says so.

    Thanks, Daylily, for giving us all something to ponder. The longer you look, the more you see…

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  2. John says:

    In the printing industry, the question is usually “Is it art, or is that a mistake?”. With some designers, it’s hard to tell.

    Not that this applies here. I prefer to call your work “doodling with wire”, but that’s only because I like the phrase.

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  3. fsdthreshold says:

    Fascinating essay! Thank you, Daylily! (I like the colors, too!)

    That’s really interesting to read the Allen Saunders quote! I wonder if that’s who John Lennon was quoting in his song “Beautiful Boy,” about how life is what happens to you when you’re busy making other plans. I thought it originated with John, but looking at the timing, I’d say the Allen Saunders quote must have been first.

    Along those lines — I’ve often wondered if the child’s toy known as the Slinky was really designed as a toy, or if a worker in some factory discovered the toy potential when s/he started playing with a spring of that type that was really used in some machine. “Hey, look! It ‘walks’ down stairs!”

    I like the rules you established for yourself in creating the piece!

    Your photos are certainly art on their own, too. I really like how, in the pictures, the straight and angular lines of the hangers are set in harmonious contrast to the gently curving lines of draped cloth. “Nature abhors a straight line,” it is said. In one way, the tree you made makes me think of the human race — sharp and angular upon the gentle, curved Earth. (And in very precarious balance!)

    You’ve really made me want to get out my paints and brushes again!

    It’s a big question, this matter of what exactly constitutes art. I’ll probably come back here with more thoughts throughout the week. But I will say this now: in the ancient Chinese tradition, the formation of a single letter is an art form. In the beautiful, beautiful movie Hero (a work of art if ever there was one), the character Broken Sword or Breaks the Sword writes the same pictograph letter over and over and over again — day after day, striving to write it ever more perfectly — seeking the wisdom that that one single letter will give him. So the underlying thought is that through the production of art (in this case, highly disciplined art), we learn — we journey deep into ourselves and grasp truths.

    I can certainly say from experience that writing is a journey of discovery. You mentioned “letting the materials dictate what happens next” — yes! That’s my experience, too. Starting with some degree of an idea, but letting it change as the work progresses.

    Very, very interesting!

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    • I am simply an observer says:

      Fred, I saw a show on the History channel about the history of toys. The Slinky, Silly Putty and the SuperBall were all accidents — in other words, not originally intended as a ‘toy’ or something to be played with.

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    • Daylily says:

      Fred, I wondered if anyone would pick that up, about the Saunders quotation! I went looking for the exact wording of the quotation and found evidence online that Lennon did not originate the saying. As for rules, it seems to me that any artform (or attempt at art) needs some sort of rules, self-imposed or otherwise. If you have no format, how do you know when you’re done or whether you’ve achieved what you set out to do? Even a doodle on paper will have some sort of implicit rules, such as “the materials will consist of a piece of paper and a pencil.” The rules limit the creation, yet at the same time, they define the creation, giving it structure. Creation as “a journey of discovery”–yes! I find that principle at work when I write music. I have the structure of the work planned before I start to make a written score. But I don’t have everything planned; much of the piece I find as I go along. As I develop the score, I am always open to some new twist, a new bit of melody or harmony which might present itself.

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    • Daylily says:

      Fred, thanks for your take on my photos! I did not purposely contrast the draped cloth with the angular hangers; I merely needed to cover up the antique chest and the stairway. But you’re right; the contrast does work well.

      When I take photos, I strive to achieve good balance and composition. I’m sure we’ve all noticed that some photos are more esthetically pleasing than others, among our own photos, or the photos we see in art shows, or the photos others show us. Some photographers are more skilled than others. We might say that their photos are more artistic. Think of Ansel Adams, the eye that man had for creating art through the lens of a camera! Some photos are definitely art. But what makes a photo “not art”?

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  4. Catherine says:

    I loved this post!

    I never know what I term “art”. I don’t think I have rules, or else I have several sets. (For example, writing for a person who thinks art is completely encapsulated in the Spanish renaissance, well, then, I wouldn’t call that Norwegian guy who painted “The Scream” an “artist”.)

    I think one uniform thing for me is originality. I think sometimes when I’m looking at needlepoint work done from a specific pattern that there is nothing “artistic” about it. But when someone takes several needlepoint patterns and combines them, then I probably consider that “art”. On the other hand, I like calligraphy, and I probably call that “art”. So, who knows?

    I very much like your (very original) tree, and consider it very artistic. Probably art. I second my dad in that I really like the term “doodling with wire”, but, like him, I don’t think the description prohibits the technique being “art”. Leonardo da Vinci’s doodles and studies are considered “art”! I don’t think you can call a doodle not art simply because it is a doodle.

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    • Daylily says:

      Thanks, Catherine!

      About Leonardo: but he was a famous artist! Yes, anything by him or Picasso, even a doodle, would be considered art and worth amazing amounts of money. But if you or I take a pen or pencil and draw a few purposeful lines on paper, is that art? I agree that some doodles are art. But are all doodles art?

      I agree that originality is key in distinguishing between art and craft. I also think that skill is a determining factor. Think of the skill involved in the paintings of the masters, the years of study and practice. Now think of the skill involved in balancing wire hangers so as to make a tree-like structure. No study, merely a spur of the moment experiment. Would those who have invested years in order to achieve mastery of their medium be pleased to welcome a wire hanger tree creator into their ranks as a fellow artist?

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  5. I am simply an observer says:

    My dear Daylily, it finally came to me! After checking the site a few times, reading your post two or three times and studying the photos, I have finally come up with the answer to your final question: “What IS this thing?”

    In a flash, a ‘Eureka!’ moment, if you will, it hit me: “What IS this thing?”

    It is (drumroll) “A Bitch To Untangle”

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    • Daylily says:

      Well, Sir Brown Snowflake, I rather like my title better. 🙂 For one thing, it only took seven minutes, twenty seconds, to disassemble and neatly stack the wire materials (plus 37 seconds to take the ornaments off first). But thanks for the thought! By the way, the number of hangers used came to 107.

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    • Daylily says:

      Thanks, Morwenna! I remember Pick Up Sticks. If you chose the wrong stick, you lost that turn. And yes, with sticks balanced on other sticks, making a unstable structure, a definite family resemblance to the wire tree.

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  8. Daylily says:

    I continue to wonder, are all photos art? Are all doodles art? If not, how does one decide which are not art? I also wonder, do the “best” artists take up all the space that matters in the world (as they do in the history books), or is there really a good place in the world for any and all artistic endeavors?

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  9. I am simply an observer says:

    With apologies to Daylily, I would like to wish everyone a happy Feast of the Archangels, which is celebrated every Sept. 29. As my chosen saint is Gabriel (the strength of God), the patron of communicators, I particularly rejoice on this day and I happily share my joy with all of you (yes, even with you, Chris! In fact, particularly with you! ha ha).

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  10. Daylily says:

    Shucks. Here I was counting on getting definitive answers to some of my lifelong questions, such as “What is art?” and “What is an artist?” and “How much do technique and skill matter?” and “Are we all, perhaps, artists?”
    🙂 If no one is going to come forward and enlighten me, I will have to live with the ambiguity. Maybe it all comes down to this: art is in the eye of the beholder.

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  11. Scott says:

    When asked by Ben Bova, then editor of Analog magazine, the difference between a book reviewer and a book critic, Spider Robinson said, “A book critic tells you whether or not it’s Art. A book reviewer tells you whether it’s any damn good.” Bova immediately gave him a book review column to write.

    Daylily, don’t wonder about whether or not it’s art. Some things that are considered to be great works of art look like crap to me. If people appreciate it and like it, that’s all that matters.

    The greatest works of art in the world hang on the refrigerator.

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  12. I am simply an observer says:

    Oh Daylily I feel your sorrow. Two of columns have appeared on the blog and I was initially thrilled. “Oh boy,” I stupidly thought “I can’t wait to check in once or twice a day. I bet it will take me 30 minutes to read and reply to all the posts!” And then … crickets started chirping.

    Thanks, Scott, for passing on the great quote and spoonful of wisdon re: the frig.

    I hate professional critics. Most are snotty, arrogant liberals who think their flatulence is a potpourri of freshness.

    My favorite painting of all time is Renoir’s “Luncheon of the Boating Party” Does that mean I like all Renoir or all impressionists or all the sickening French? Of course not. I know what I like when I see it and I know what I don’t like (usually instantly).

    As for who/what is an artist? An artist is someone who produces art, and if the producer believes he/she is producing art than I guess they are. That does not mean all have to like it.

    To me ‘craft’ is different from ‘art’ in that craft is often used to repeatedly make the same thing (10 different identical cross-stitches as present, for instance).

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    • fsdthreshold says:

      In one way, by illustrating part of the loneliness of producing art, we’re exploring one aspect of Daylily’s questions. To what extent does art require an audience to validate it? The lack of comments, the lack of notice, the lack of attention — these are issues I struggle regularly with as a writer, and I’m not just talking about my own work. Out in the world, I see some writers writing to enormous acclaim, having a worldwide following; and I see others, telling equally wonderful tales, who are completely obscure. Scott, I think you said something profound in that “the best art in the world hangs on refrigerators.” A child’s drawing that is beyond price to his/her mother . . . As a writer, I have, a few times, experienced having my work truly touch and mean something to a total stranger. In that experience, I have found complete fulfillment as an artist — the only difference between that and the experience of the writers with worldwide acclaim is a matter of magnitude, the same experience replicated many times. But the essence is the same.

      I’m not finished with this topic yet, but I’m really worn out from a day of revisions — more soon!

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    • Daylily says:

      It’s true that one would always like more comments! However, today’s statistics from WordPress put things in perspective: “Freshly Pressed: The best of 336,006 bloggers, 2,219,594 new posts, 390,140 comments, & 251,881,969 words today on WordPress.com.” Whoa! With that many blogs to choose from on WordPress alone, plus all the wealth of other info on the Internet, plus books to read, plus our usual lives to lead, I very much appreciate the comments posted here and the time people took to post them!

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      • tandemcat says:

        What is my comment among all the others here? But I couldn’t pass this one up, because it echoes one of my all-time favorite song phrases: “a world of too much choice” (Heart). And, as I think of that, I often remember, from Scripture, “They shall heap unto themselves teachers, having itching ears.”

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  13. Daylily says:

    Thank you, all! I was hoping the discussion wouldn’t end quite yet, because I really enjoy thinking about these questions. Every time I visit an art museum, the same questions arise in my mind. “What, you call THAT art?” Hmm, well, somebody calls it art, and even paid money for it. If the critic and the curator call it art, do I have to agree, or may I say it’s
    not art? Maybe the best thing to say is that as long as a creation is meaningful to someone, for that person, it is art. So for the parent and grandparent, the child’s drawing is art. For anyone who sees something to appreciate in a wire tree made of hangers, the tree is art. Perhaps it’s best to be polite and say that certain obscene or ugly creations in art museums are good art to somebody, but to me, they are bad art or art I do not see the point of. But they are still art, and their creators are still artists. There should be room in the world for all artists and their art, and yes, Sir Brown Snowflake, we don’t have to like every one of these creations!

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  14. Shieldmaiden says:

    Daylily: Thank you for sharing this post with us. I have read it twice and all the comments as they have come in. I love the quotes that have been shared and all the art ponderings. Your tree and the photos are great, “Wire Tree One With Shadow” is my favorite (and art for sure!). Even the heart shaped ornaments cast perfect heart shadows on the draping. The biggest difference I see between art and craft (aside from the assembly line or repetitious aspect mentioned by our own dear Snowflake) is that I find I need very little to produce art, while I need a storage vault of materials if I want to craft.
    P.S. pssstt, Daylily, are we still on for October?

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    • Daylily says:

      Thanks, Shieldmaiden! Yes, the morning sunlight on the wire tree produced a very interesting shadow effect. I like the interplay between light and darkness, and the balance between the shape of the tree and the shape of the lighted section of the drape. Good observation about art versus craft! If you are going to do the craft per the instructions, you need exactly the right materials. But for an artwork, you can choose from whatever materials you have on hand and go from there. (Yes, we are on for October, and October is almost here!)

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  15. fsdthreshold says:

    Some famous person (wow, it really takes the thunder out of a quote when you can’t remember who said it) wrote: “There are no immoral books; there are only well-written ones and poorly-written ones.”

    That being said, one does have to wonder about the wisdom of creating well-rendered art that is extremely unpleasant for the experiencer. Why are we doing this, anyway?

    I remember being fascinated in college by the realization that some poetry had/has/will/could be/been written in which the meanings of the words was/is secondary to the main thrust of causing the reader to feel a certain emotion, such as “unease.” To a degree, I still think that’s really cool. In addition to meanings, words have emotional charges, colors, nuances, connotations, atmospheres . . . But should we create art for the purpose of disturbing the person who experiences it? Or for the purpose of making him/her feel any negative emotion? To quote Marquee Movies: “It matters what we put into our heads, because we will never, ever get it out again.”

    Don’t worry, Daylily — your wire-hanger art hasn’t been giving me nightmares or anything! 🙂

    I’ve also been wondering if maybe the fundamental questions about art have been intimidating some readers of the blog. I know we all love art in its broadest sense! — whether “art” for us is a Renaissance painting, a good paperback novel, or a beautifully-executed pass in football. (Do they call them “passes”?)

    To quote the old Duke whom some of you know:
    You who enter here, put your mind to it part by part / and tell me then if so many wonders / were made as trickery or as art.

    As to the big questions: please don’t think I’m sidestepping the issue, but I can’t help thinking of the Garrison Keillor Lake Wobegon monologue about the Lutheran confirmation service. The graduating confirmands all stood up before the congregation and “in twenty minutes, they answered readily the questions that have vexed theologians for centuries.” Heh, heh, heh! That is Lutheran humor at its best. I expect Mr. Snowflake, as a confirmation teacher himself, will also appreciate it!

    When I see a person who is really, really good at her/his job, whatever that job may be, I can’t help thinking, “That is art.” When I see the sunlight in summer leaves, I know that is art.

    Art is often misunderstood. I still remember our Wind Symphony director at our college telling me that my performance of my poem “Glory Day” at a student composers’ recital was “funny.” “Was it supposed to be funny?” he asked. I think my answer was a cheerful, “Well . . .” with some shrugs and smiles.

    Mr. Snowflake says, “I know what I like.” I guess that’s ultimately what it boils down to. Nearly anything done purposefully in order to express something or to be interesting or beautiful or startling or feeling-provoking can be art. Some people will “get” it and/or like it. Some won’t. Some artists are astonishingly skilled at manipulating their materials. Some, not so much.

    Art is a kind of luxury, isn’t it? It’s the dimension that lies beyond mere survival. Our bodies could live and propagate without it, but it feeds our minds and souls. Can we not then say this? —

    Art is what makes us human.

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    • Daylily says:

      I’m glad that the wire tree is not giving you nightmares! I did not find the tree particularly disturbing, myself. 🙂 One can make a case for disturbing art, though. Not all art has to be beautiful, though I think that beauty is necessary to uplift the human spirit, and art is one of the best ways to bring beauty into our lives. Guernica by Pablo Picasso is a well-known artwork that is unpleasant to view. “This work has gained a monumental status, becoming a perpetual reminder of the tragedies of war, an anti-war symbol, and an embodiment of peace.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_(painting) It is good to be reminded about the consequences of war, because humans are good at forgetting inconvenient facts.

      We can be artists in the way we live our lives, yes. And whenever I am outdoors, I like to look at what the Master Artist is doing today, especially by way of cloud patterns.

      If art is what makes us human, it is therefore a necessity! Interesting to note that animals are known to use tools. Chimpanzees, certainly, and even some birds, such as the woodpecker finch. But I would have thought that the making of art was an exclusively human characteristic. Tonight I googled “art creation by animals” and found a write-up on Mr. Bailey, a capuchin monkey who regularly paints abstract art! http://www.rd.com/your-america-inspiring-people-and-stories/animal-einsteins/article30376.html

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  16. I am simply an observer says:

    Funny, I thought the thing that made us human was that we used cutlery. Hmm.

    Shieldmaiden hath bewitched us with a new icon, which caught me off guard in my speedy dash through the comments. I take it, my lady, that you have discarded the old email address that was giving you fits?

    Dunno what you and Daylily have going on, but as I write it is 1:33 am. CDT Oct. 1. IT IS OCTOBER! HOORAY! My favorite month of the year, if only because it means a full month is now between us and hated August. ha ha

    Ahh October! The bright skies! The cool days, cooler nights (great open-window sleeping!) and crisp air! Ahh October, with the sound of violence coming from gridirons across the land! Ahh October!

    You want art? Walk through a deciduous forest in North America the last two weeks of October. Now THAT is art 🙂

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    • Shieldmaiden says:

      Actually Observer, my email only gives me fits when I write to you for some reason. It is an isolated incident that complete sentences are somehow eaten away when I send you a note.

      The story of the new icon is that when I began writing on the blog I used my shieldmaiden gmail address and forwarded to my regular one, but now it wont let me forward. I want to get those handy follow-up email notices so I had to give up the lovely green snowflake.

      As far as October goes, there was quite a bit of discussion a while back about the story of how we each found Dragonfly. Dailily and I are pretty sure there will be an October post (about all things Halloween and Autumnal) where we plan to begin commenting on said topic. Here is the link to the post that started it all. I think it begins with John C.
      http://fredericsdurbin.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/take-me-to-the-fair/

      FALL: cool weather, late nights, apple and pumpkin picking (followed by caramel apples and pumpkin pie), crunchy leaves, cornmazes, scary books & movies, and Halloween! 🙂 WHO’S READY!?

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  17. I am simply an observer says:

    PROD! There has not been an fsdthreshold “non-interview” posting — on his own blog, I remind us, and him — since Aug. 10, nearly two full months ago. PROD!

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    • fsdthreshold says:

      You will be happy to hear, Sir, that I am working on such a post right now!

      After all, we need to give Shieldmaiden and Daylily a chance to launch their October plot!

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    • fsdthreshold says:

      People in the States have been asking me about an earthquake over here. This is just to let you know that I’m fine and didn’t even know about the quake until I started getting worried messages. Apparently it wasn’t right here in the city.

      My school term has started this week, so my next post didn’t get finished last night like I wanted it to — but I hope within the next day or two.

      Yes, as Daylily has pointed out, there was an interesting new commenter who stopped in on the post called “The Winchester Mystery House” — I had fun looking back through that post as a great kickoff to October!

      Talk to you soon!

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  19. Daylily says:

    In the meantime, there are interesting comments to be read on “The Winchester Mystery House” post. I almost missed them because I don’t seem to be subscribed to the comments on that post.

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    • fsdthreshold says:

      How about those orbs? 🙂 I kind of thought that might trigger an interesting discussion, too. I think the person who commented was a random passer-through, probably someone who did a Google search on the Winchester Mystery House.

      But wow, the whole topic of weird things in photos would also make a great October post. I’ll bet people have stories . . . but we might all get too scared to sleep!

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    • fsdthreshold says:

      Do I hear the crocodile from Peter Pan approaching?

      Seriously: I’ve reached the weekend now. Before you go to bed Friday night, Mr. Brown Snowflake, the new post will be up (unless I’m devoured by a giant hedgehog).

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